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	<title>Comments on: Subtlety in Romance, Sweet Blue Flowers</title>
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		<title>By: Searching for the Happiness within Yuri &#124; zanaikin &#124; Major Arcana</title>
		<link>http://blog.ephemeraleternity.com/2009/10/12/subtlety-in-romance-sweet-blue-flowers/comment-page-1/#comment-6109</link>
		<dc:creator>Searching for the Happiness within Yuri &#124; zanaikin &#124; Major Arcana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 00:59:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Most peo­ple clas­sify yuri as a pri­mary genre, like romance or action (as opposed to secondary/tertiary gen­res, like psy­cho­log­i­cal, school, etc, which are more like descrip­tor tags). This implies it’s amongst the main rea­sons to watch a show, and that if you don’t love yuri then you can’t enjoy the show. To date I’m still not com­pletely sure of this view. Yes, I’ve picked up yuri for the sake of it being yuri, but is yuri the tar­get that I’m look­ing for? Or, is yuri merely a medium of deliv­er­ing what I really sought? I’m reminded of what ETERNAL said: [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Most peo­ple clas­sify yuri as a pri­mary genre, like romance or action (as opposed to secondary/tertiary gen­res, like psy­cho­log­i­cal, school, etc, which are more like descrip­tor tags). This implies it’s amongst the main rea­sons to watch a show, and that if you don’t love yuri then you can’t enjoy the show. To date I’m still not com­pletely sure of this view. Yes, I’ve picked up yuri for the sake of it being yuri, but is yuri the tar­get that I’m look­ing for? Or, is yuri merely a medium of deliv­er­ing what I really sought? I’m reminded of what ETERNAL said: [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Yuri is a lot like Mecha &#124; Baka-Raptor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yuri is a lot like Mecha &#124; Baka-Raptor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Dec 2009 15:25:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I remembered a wise quote from a wise man: Just like you have real robots and super robots in the mecha genre, you have real lesbians and [...]</description>
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		<title>By: ETERNAL</title>
		<link>http://blog.ephemeraleternity.com/2009/10/12/subtlety-in-romance-sweet-blue-flowers/comment-page-1/#comment-4302</link>
		<dc:creator>ETERNAL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Oct 2009 22:19:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes I did, and it&#039;s one of my favourite parts of the video! It was the little details like that that initially drew me to the show, when I starting thinking &quot;this isn&#039;t &lt;i&gt;ordinary&lt;/i&gt; yuri, is it?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes I did, and it&#8217;s one of my favourite parts of the video! It was the little details like that that initially drew me to the show, when I starting thinking &#8220;this isn&#8217;t <i>ordinary</i> yuri, is it?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: 2DT</title>
		<link>http://blog.ephemeraleternity.com/2009/10/12/subtlety-in-romance-sweet-blue-flowers/comment-page-1/#comment-4300</link>
		<dc:creator>2DT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Oct 2009 11:03:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having just finished Aoi Hana myself, I appreciate this post.

I personally believe that Aoi Hana stands out (and above abominations like Strawberry Panic) because it mixes in just the tiniest bit of what homosexuality, and really any relationship, is like in real life.  People are surprised when girls tell them they dated other girls.  Flings don&#039;t work out, and people don&#039;t go hopping from one girl to the next without some tremendous baggage.  It&#039;s not &quot;real,&quot; but it&#039;s a start at something.

Also:  Did you ever notice at the very last second of the opening, one of the little fingers curls just a bit closer to the other?  I didn&#039;t catch this for a long time, but it tugged my heartstrings when I finally did.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having just finished Aoi Hana myself, I appreciate this post.</p>
<p>I personally believe that Aoi Hana stands out (and above abominations like Strawberry Panic) because it mixes in just the tiniest bit of what homosexuality, and really any relationship, is like in real life.  People are surprised when girls tell them they dated other girls.  Flings don&#8217;t work out, and people don&#8217;t go hopping from one girl to the next without some tremendous baggage.  It&#8217;s not &#8220;real,&#8221; but it&#8217;s a start at something.</p>
<p>Also:  Did you ever notice at the very last second of the opening, one of the little fingers curls just a bit closer to the other?  I didn&#8217;t catch this for a long time, but it tugged my heartstrings when I finally did.</p>
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		<title>By: ETERNAL</title>
		<link>http://blog.ephemeraleternity.com/2009/10/12/subtlety-in-romance-sweet-blue-flowers/comment-page-1/#comment-4290</link>
		<dc:creator>ETERNAL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 16:28:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;@ nekosasu:&lt;/b&gt; I haven&#039;t read the manga, but I imagine the source material would help explain the details of the plot. Most of my enjoyment came from the telling of the plot.

&lt;b&gt;@ Baka-Raptor:&lt;/b&gt; Quote of the day. You, sir, have won an internet.

&lt;b&gt;@ Omo:&lt;/b&gt; See, it&#039;s that kind of succinct ambiguity that makes you confusing! But I get what you&#039;re saying , after a couple re-reads. It&#039;s a good example though I don&#039;t think I could paraphrase it.

&lt;b&gt;@ Martin:&lt;/b&gt; Escapism is part of it, but I think it&#039;s closer to the iyashikei type of escapism. Part of the appeal is in the fact that it&#039;s unfamiliar.

&lt;b&gt;@ otou-san:&lt;/b&gt; I lol&#039;d. Well said. That&#039;s what I meant when I said something or the other about semantics: you&#039;re right, technically. It doesn&#039;t change the show or the post, but yeah, &lt;i&gt;subtle&lt;/i&gt; might not be the right word to describe most of the shows out there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>@ nekosasu:</b> I haven&#8217;t read the manga, but I imagine the source material would help explain the details of the plot. Most of my enjoyment came from the telling of the plot.</p>
<p><b>@ Baka-Raptor:</b> Quote of the day. You, sir, have won an internet.</p>
<p><b>@ Omo:</b> See, it&#8217;s that kind of succinct ambiguity that makes you confusing! But I get what you&#8217;re saying , after a couple re-reads. It&#8217;s a good example though I don&#8217;t think I could paraphrase it.</p>
<p><b>@ Martin:</b> Escapism is part of it, but I think it&#8217;s closer to the iyashikei type of escapism. Part of the appeal is in the fact that it&#8217;s unfamiliar.</p>
<p><b>@ otou-san:</b> I lol&#8217;d. Well said. That&#8217;s what I meant when I said something or the other about semantics: you&#8217;re right, technically. It doesn&#8217;t change the show or the post, but yeah, <i>subtle</i> might not be the right word to describe most of the shows out there.</p>
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		<title>By: otou-san</title>
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		<dc:creator>otou-san</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 17:40:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m with you on Aoi Hana, although I didn&#039;t see too much of it. &quot;Humble&quot; is a great word for it — the series itself  behaves like a sweet, soft-spoken lesbian. (Baka-Raptor is right on with real lesbians and super lesbians, I love it)

I disagree, though, that subtlety is anything but uncommon in anime. Ambiguity, yes, but subtlety, I dunno. I think that&#039;s why I enjoyed what I did see of Aoi Hana.

If you&#039;ll pardon me, please read these words flashing across the screen while I go blow up this nearby planet with my buster machine before this teenage god slips the bunny girl a mickey. Incidentally, I&#039;m wearing a mask because it represents my hidden nature.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m with you on Aoi Hana, although I didn&#8217;t see too much of it. &#8220;Humble&#8221; is a great word for it — the series itself  behaves like a sweet, soft-spoken lesbian. (Baka-Raptor is right on with real lesbians and super lesbians, I love it)</p>
<p>I disagree, though, that subtlety is anything but uncommon in anime. Ambiguity, yes, but subtlety, I dunno. I think that&#8217;s why I enjoyed what I did see of Aoi Hana.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;ll pardon me, please read these words flashing across the screen while I go blow up this nearby planet with my buster machine before this teenage god slips the bunny girl a mickey. Incidentally, I&#8217;m wearing a mask because it represents my hidden nature.</p>
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		<title>By: TheBigN</title>
		<link>http://blog.ephemeraleternity.com/2009/10/12/subtlety-in-romance-sweet-blue-flowers/comment-page-1/#comment-4286</link>
		<dc:creator>TheBigN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 17:27:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And of course, we haven&#039;t gotten into the whole &quot;yuri is hot&quot; stereotypical rationale that I&#039;m sure most of us (including myself) still hold a candle to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And of course, we haven&#8217;t gotten into the whole &#8220;yuri is hot&#8221; stereotypical rationale that I&#8217;m sure most of us (including myself) still hold a candle to.</p>
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		<title>By: Martin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 17:22:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My reason for appreciating what little yuri - or, to be more accurate, shoujo-ai in general actually - I&#039;ve seen so far is that female anime characters are better written. More care is taken in not only the character designs but the personality traits, dialogue and the ways they express emotion. Male characters are dull at best and annoying at worst: I know I&#039;m generalising here, but the Thickheaded Male Anime Lead is a notorious stereotype for a reason! It&#039;s rare I sit down and watch an Anime Male Lead who doesn&#039;t get on my nerves for some reason or other.

You&#039;ve got me thinking about whether the reasons are more complicated than that though. Assuming you&#039;re a heterosexual male viewer, your perspective is going to be more detached because no heterosexual males are likely to be involved in the relationships portrayed. Maybe there&#039;s an escapism aspect at work here? I sure as hell can&#039;t directly relate to something as far outside my personal experience as romance between girls and other girls. Maybe it&#039;s a refreshing change in that sense too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My reason for appreciating what little yuri &#8211; or, to be more accurate, shoujo-ai in general actually &#8211; I&#8217;ve seen so far is that female anime characters are better written. More care is taken in not only the character designs but the personality traits, dialogue and the ways they express emotion. Male characters are dull at best and annoying at worst: I know I&#8217;m generalising here, but the Thickheaded Male Anime Lead is a notorious stereotype for a reason! It&#8217;s rare I sit down and watch an Anime Male Lead who doesn&#8217;t get on my nerves for some reason or other.</p>
<p>You&#8217;ve got me thinking about whether the reasons are more complicated than that though. Assuming you&#8217;re a heterosexual male viewer, your perspective is going to be more detached because no heterosexual males are likely to be involved in the relationships portrayed. Maybe there&#8217;s an escapism aspect at work here? I sure as hell can&#8217;t directly relate to something as far outside my personal experience as romance between girls and other girls. Maybe it&#8217;s a refreshing change in that sense too.</p>
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		<title>By: omo</title>
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		<dc:creator>omo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 14:38:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Baka-Raptor: that&#039;s one way to put it... nice deconstruction job.

I think yuri and subtlety are a good combination like science and fiction, too. But what makes Aoi Hana work for me is the science. Or the subtlety. Like hard sci-fi makes make believe easier to stomach.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Baka-Raptor: that&#8217;s one way to put it&#8230; nice deconstruction job.</p>
<p>I think yuri and subtlety are a good combination like science and fiction, too. But what makes Aoi Hana work for me is the science. Or the subtlety. Like hard sci-fi makes make believe easier to stomach.</p>
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		<title>By: Baka-Raptor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Baka-Raptor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 10:30:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just like you have real robots and super robots in the mecha genre, you have real lesbians and super lesbians in the yuri genre. I prefer super lesbians, but real lesbians are nice change of pace.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just like you have real robots and super robots in the mecha genre, you have real lesbians and super lesbians in the yuri genre. I prefer super lesbians, but real lesbians are nice change of pace.</p>
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