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		<title>By: Trapped in the past: How many gateway anime do we need, exactly? &#171; Canne&#39;s anime review blog</title>
		<link>http://blog.ephemeraleternity.com/2010/02/06/the-impact-of-gateway-anime/comment-page-1/#comment-6036</link>
		<dc:creator>Trapped in the past: How many gateway anime do we need, exactly? &#171; Canne&#39;s anime review blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 23:00:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] does give me inspiration for a special post from time to time. This post is largely inspired by Eternal’s and Ryan A’s theory and opinions on gateway anime. They make me reflect to myself and other [...]</description>
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		<title>By: super rats</title>
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		<dc:creator>super rats</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 20:43:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The gateway into my second wave of anime fandom was Cowboy Bebop like ten years ago. I&#039;ve always been attracted to things with blue notes and there is a sense of emptiness in a lot of anime, so my attraction to melancholy (separate from tear jerking drama) has kept me into anime for a while. The nice thing is for all but the most desolate shows, anime changes gears really quick to keep it from being too depressing. I don&#039;t look for melancholy moods (or space cowboys), but when it comes around, it&#039;s like ah, thanks for that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The gateway into my second wave of anime fandom was Cowboy Bebop like ten years ago. I&#8217;ve always been attracted to things with blue notes and there is a sense of emptiness in a lot of anime, so my attraction to melancholy (separate from tear jerking drama) has kept me into anime for a while. The nice thing is for all but the most desolate shows, anime changes gears really quick to keep it from being too depressing. I don&#8217;t look for melancholy moods (or space cowboys), but when it comes around, it&#8217;s like ah, thanks for that.</p>
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		<title>By: digitalboy</title>
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		<dc:creator>digitalboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 21:11:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I want to say that I&#039;ve had individual gateway anime to each new genre or style of anime. After each gateway, I will like/seek/accept more of that type, but I&#039;ve never reached a stopping point of accepting new kinds of anime.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I want to say that I&#8217;ve had individual gateway anime to each new genre or style of anime. After each gateway, I will like/seek/accept more of that type, but I&#8217;ve never reached a stopping point of accepting new kinds of anime.</p>
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		<title>By: Canne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Canne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 13:38:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like kadian1364&#039;s metaphor. Everyone changes gradually according to cumulative experience. Everything we are is the result of everything we had encountered. So the gateway anime will always matters even if one does not know it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like kadian1364&#8242;s metaphor. Everyone changes gradually according to cumulative experience. Everything we are is the result of everything we had encountered. So the gateway anime will always matters even if one does not know it.</p>
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		<title>By: ETERNAL</title>
		<link>http://blog.ephemeraleternity.com/2010/02/06/the-impact-of-gateway-anime/comment-page-1/#comment-5922</link>
		<dc:creator>ETERNAL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Feb 2010 21:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;@ mefloraine:&lt;/b&gt; I think the impact is more unconscious than conscious. Using myself as an example, I started out with shounen and sci-fi/mecha, but the stuff I&#039;m into now couldn&#039;t be more different. However, when I watch a shounen anime, I think of Kenshin; when I play a galge, I think of Hourglass of Summer. Everyone&#039;s experiences are different, but as a general rule, I think it has an unconscious effect on your expectations and preferences.

&lt;b&gt;@ kadian1364:&lt;/b&gt; Nice. Very nice. I&#039;ll have to keep that metaphor in mind!

&lt;b&gt;@ ghostlightning:&lt;/b&gt; Interesting. I think the first part of your comment applies to all of us: no one distinguishes between &quot;anime&quot; and &quot;other cartoons&quot; when they first start watching. It sounds like the shows that you watched as a child are pretty much the same as the ones that made you a fan, which makes things a little different, but it&#039;s the same basic idea. I wouldn&#039;t consider Pokemon to be a gateway anime for me, but the shounen anime from the mid Naughties? Definitely.

Anyway, only you would know how much your first few mecha shows influenced you, but they must have set &lt;i&gt;something&lt;/i&gt; in place to guide your later fandom. Nothing is set in stone, but I&#039;d be surprised if there wasn&#039;t some sort of influence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>@ mefloraine:</b> I think the impact is more unconscious than conscious. Using myself as an example, I started out with shounen and sci-fi/mecha, but the stuff I&#8217;m into now couldn&#8217;t be more different. However, when I watch a shounen anime, I think of Kenshin; when I play a galge, I think of Hourglass of Summer. Everyone&#8217;s experiences are different, but as a general rule, I think it has an unconscious effect on your expectations and preferences.</p>
<p><b>@ kadian1364:</b> Nice. Very nice. I&#8217;ll have to keep that metaphor in mind!</p>
<p><b>@ ghostlightning:</b> Interesting. I think the first part of your comment applies to all of us: no one distinguishes between &#8220;anime&#8221; and &#8220;other cartoons&#8221; when they first start watching. It sounds like the shows that you watched as a child are pretty much the same as the ones that made you a fan, which makes things a little different, but it&#8217;s the same basic idea. I wouldn&#8217;t consider Pokemon to be a gateway anime for me, but the shounen anime from the mid Naughties? Definitely.</p>
<p>Anyway, only you would know how much your first few mecha shows influenced you, but they must have set <i>something</i> in place to guide your later fandom. Nothing is set in stone, but I&#8217;d be surprised if there wasn&#8217;t some sort of influence.</p>
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		<title>By: ghostlightning</title>
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		<dc:creator>ghostlightning</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Feb 2010 14:00:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Egads, I&#039;m certainly one of those older fans -- and I was indeed a high school freshman in 1990 lols -- who wish for more robot shows. But let me share something here: I never really distinguished anime when I started watching cartoons at 3 years old. I was told they were from Japan, but Japan as a country and culture don&#039;t mean much to a pre-schooler.

I loved robot shows not because they were the first shows I saw. I was watching Mickey Mouse, Donald Duck, &amp; Bugs Bunny at the same time. While I got into them too, there was something about Voltes V, Daimos, and Mazinger Z that really captured my imagination -- and since they were actually &lt;i&gt;banned&lt;/i&gt; at some point in my distant childhood, I felt what seemed to be the first abuses of power in my life.

I would go without robot shows for a few years, until Macross came, and then all was awesome in my television world again. After Ferdinand Marcos the dictator was deposed in 1986, the new government brought back Voltes V, Daimos, and new robot shows. But I&#039;ve sort of moved on in the late 80s and wouldn&#039;t get into anime again until DBZ, Robotech, then Macross Plus, Ghost in the Shell, Akira, and Ninja Scroll. All the big things back in the early 90s US fandom. 

It&#039;s funny how we started getting into US licensed anime at that time despite our tradition of directly importing from Japan. It may have to do with the language. We didn&#039;t care much for Tagalog dubs, and preferred the english ones.

I wouldn&#039;t really discover robots again until my late 20s (despite watching shows like Van Dread) when I finally watched Evangelion in full, and then Escaflowne, then Gunbuster, then TTGL. Now I can&#039;t get enough of them.

While I don&#039;t require newer shows to be more like the shows I love, I do wish they make more of the shows I do love.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Egads, I&#8217;m certainly one of those older fans &#8212; and I was indeed a high school freshman in 1990 lols &#8212; who wish for more robot shows. But let me share something here: I never really distinguished anime when I started watching cartoons at 3 years old. I was told they were from Japan, but Japan as a country and culture don&#8217;t mean much to a pre-schooler.</p>
<p>I loved robot shows not because they were the first shows I saw. I was watching Mickey Mouse, Donald Duck, &amp; Bugs Bunny at the same time. While I got into them too, there was something about Voltes V, Daimos, and Mazinger Z that really captured my imagination &#8212; and since they were actually <i>banned</i> at some point in my distant childhood, I felt what seemed to be the first abuses of power in my life.</p>
<p>I would go without robot shows for a few years, until Macross came, and then all was awesome in my television world again. After Ferdinand Marcos the dictator was deposed in 1986, the new government brought back Voltes V, Daimos, and new robot shows. But I&#8217;ve sort of moved on in the late 80s and wouldn&#8217;t get into anime again until DBZ, Robotech, then Macross Plus, Ghost in the Shell, Akira, and Ninja Scroll. All the big things back in the early 90s US fandom. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s funny how we started getting into US licensed anime at that time despite our tradition of directly importing from Japan. It may have to do with the language. We didn&#8217;t care much for Tagalog dubs, and preferred the english ones.</p>
<p>I wouldn&#8217;t really discover robots again until my late 20s (despite watching shows like Van Dread) when I finally watched Evangelion in full, and then Escaflowne, then Gunbuster, then TTGL. Now I can&#8217;t get enough of them.</p>
<p>While I don&#8217;t require newer shows to be more like the shows I love, I do wish they make more of the shows I do love.</p>
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		<title>By: kadian1364</title>
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		<dc:creator>kadian1364</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Feb 2010 02:14:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Experience is like a big telescope we use to watch &quot;the stars&quot; with, a.k.a. anime. The stars themselves never change (practically, don&#039;t be a physicsfag on me I&#039;m trying to work a metaphor here), we just discover new ones. The difference between how people see these stars is in what lenses they see them through. Each lens does a slightly different thing, magnification, light filtration, even color tinting. But the quirk about this particular telescope is that you can never remove the old lenses, only add new ones to the front, so that they only alter the image you can already see. Therefore it requires many newer lenses to reverse the effects of those older, dusty and smeared glass pieces closer to your naked eyes.

The much belabored point is that experience is only cumulative; more than simply nostalgia, we can never truly forget or disregard our first times, the early days, regardless of whether we consciously acknowledge them and hold them precious or not. What changes is the layers through which we see such things. Or all things, really.

Anyway, I don&#039;t want to harp on an obvious idea, just that I&#039;ve been thinking about this topic myself since ANNCast last week. Gateway anime is really important, IMO. lols</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Experience is like a big telescope we use to watch &#8220;the stars&#8221; with, a.k.a. anime. The stars themselves never change (practically, don&#8217;t be a physicsfag on me I&#8217;m trying to work a metaphor here), we just discover new ones. The difference between how people see these stars is in what lenses they see them through. Each lens does a slightly different thing, magnification, light filtration, even color tinting. But the quirk about this particular telescope is that you can never remove the old lenses, only add new ones to the front, so that they only alter the image you can already see. Therefore it requires many newer lenses to reverse the effects of those older, dusty and smeared glass pieces closer to your naked eyes.</p>
<p>The much belabored point is that experience is only cumulative; more than simply nostalgia, we can never truly forget or disregard our first times, the early days, regardless of whether we consciously acknowledge them and hold them precious or not. What changes is the layers through which we see such things. Or all things, really.</p>
<p>Anyway, I don&#8217;t want to harp on an obvious idea, just that I&#8217;ve been thinking about this topic myself since ANNCast last week. Gateway anime is really important, IMO. lols</p>
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		<title>By: ETERNAL&#8217;s Impact of Gateway Anime - aloe, dream</title>
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		<dc:creator>ETERNAL&#8217;s Impact of Gateway Anime - aloe, dream</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 22:24:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] latest entry on The Impact of Gateway Anime  pokes some regions which have likely crossed minds before. The premise lies somewhere in the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Ryan A</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ryan A</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 19:47:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yea, I don&#039;t know. Rawr, writing a post response :)

I&#039;ll leave this...

&lt;blockquote&gt;People can’t play the latest eroge from Japan or pick up a random title from a local gaming store, so it’s more likely that their “first” will be a popular story-heavy game that everyone knows through word of mouth.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

People are just lazy. Also, I think Key would be considered a big gateway for VN&#039;s.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yea, I don&#8217;t know. Rawr, writing a post response :)</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll leave this&#8230;</p>
<blockquote><p>People can’t play the latest eroge from Japan or pick up a random title from a local gaming store, so it’s more likely that their “first” will be a popular story-heavy game that everyone knows through word of mouth.</p></blockquote>
<p>People are just lazy. Also, I think Key would be considered a big gateway for VN&#8217;s.</p>
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		<title>By: mefloraine</title>
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		<dc:creator>mefloraine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 19:22:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm, I know that I personally started with Fate/stay night because it is readily available in English, and I do know that it&#039;s a good one.  The ones I really want to play the most, however, are the ones not translated.

But since this post is on anime, I won&#039;t ramble on about that.

I think it&#039;s very much possible for a person to break away from the genre of anime the started with (after all, I certainly don&#039;t watch excessive amounts of shounen anime or shoujo comedy anymore).  I&#039;m not sure if I&#039;d agree that it continues to affect them exactly, but I do think that people will always remember their first anime while they&#039;re thinking about their recent anime, and the two will be compared again and again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm, I know that I personally started with Fate/stay night because it is readily available in English, and I do know that it&#8217;s a good one.  The ones I really want to play the most, however, are the ones not translated.</p>
<p>But since this post is on anime, I won&#8217;t ramble on about that.</p>
<p>I think it&#8217;s very much possible for a person to break away from the genre of anime the started with (after all, I certainly don&#8217;t watch excessive amounts of shounen anime or shoujo comedy anymore).  I&#8217;m not sure if I&#8217;d agree that it continues to affect them exactly, but I do think that people will always remember their first anime while they&#8217;re thinking about their recent anime, and the two will be compared again and again.</p>
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